Episode 10 - Kari (Is this perimenopause?)

We discuss Kari's perimenopause journey.

Erin is the creator and host of Menopause Chats. She is also a somatic and intuitive coach who helps women in the in-between live with more magic and intention through her signature approach The 5 Cs of Becoming Her. More information at: www.pauseandalign.com

The stories shared in Menopause Chats are not intended as medical advice, but for information and entertainment. Please seek a medical professional for specific advice regarding your menopause journey. 

Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:02

Hi everyone, I'm Aaron Dorusco. Welcome to Menopause Chats. I uh I know I always say this, I'm like, I'm so delighted every time I aim them. Uh and I say this every time too. We're like, I gotta come up with another word, and then I forget to do that because brain fog friend Carrie is joining us today. Uh we were talking before this about we've been friends for over a decade. We cannot pinpoint the exact date.

SPEAKER_00 0:28

No, I know we're rounding down though. We are rounding down.

SPEAKER_01 0:31

True, true. So somewhere between 10 and 13 years, maybe 12 and 12.

SPEAKER_00 0:39

I think it's closer to it would be 12 max, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 0:43

So thank you for thank you for joining me.

SPEAKER_00 0:45

Of course. Thank you for inviting me.

SPEAKER_01 0:48

And so again, we were talking about this because we've been friends for so long now that you well, you knew me pre any perimenopause. And then now post-menopause. But you would because you're younger than I am, are just getting into perimenopause. Lucky you. Uh so I guess in some ways, lucky you because you've made it to the age, you know, you're you're aging.

SPEAKER_00 1:14

So yeah, I'm turning 40 this year.

SPEAKER_01 1:16

Yeah, that's exciting.

SPEAKER_00 1:18

It is exciting. I'm I'm both excited, and we'll see what happens when I turn 30 or 40. I still feel like I'm at my 40th birthday. I feel like I was somewhere.

SPEAKER_01 1:28

Oh, you would have been. You would have uh if you we it was at a tiki bar.

SPEAKER_00 1:33

Yes, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:34

I was like, 'cause I remember other that one troop people were there.

SPEAKER_00 1:38

Yeah, yeah. No, I remember that too. And I remember you saying this is your favorite tiki bar.

SPEAKER_01 1:43

Yeah, it was.

SPEAKER_00 1:44

Yeah, yeah, it was it was cute and quaint and dark.

SPEAKER_01 1:47

Yes, it was dark.

SPEAKER_00 1:48

Yeah, I was there. See, I told you I saw mine.

SPEAKER_01 1:52

The giant, like not Jenga, um, connect four.

SPEAKER_00 1:56

Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. And yeah, I I was gonna start listing off everybody else's names, but I was like, you know what? They didn't give consent to that. So here we are.

SPEAKER_01 2:05

So yes, so anyway, so you were at my 40th, so now you're gonna be 40. That's exciting. So yeah, so you're you're probably, you know, like at the beginning of this, it sounds like.

SPEAKER_00 2:15

Sounds like, you know, it feels like there are so many possibilities of when this started. I but I haven't been able to track. But I will say this year has been, yes. I feel like there's definitely the feels of like, oh yeah, I'm turning 40, and all these symptoms seem to feel like it wasn't even on my radar 40. Well, you were in my life, so help thank you.

SPEAKER_01 2:42

You're like, thanks for telling me this is a thing that's happening.

SPEAKER_00 2:45

Yeah, no, you through I remember there were you. I mean, this is why I think intergenerational, by the way, like relationships are important because clearly the schools are not sharing this information. Um, but having people who are older than me are the people that helped inform me of what to expect. And you were definitely that person that I remember like in car rides and during the four improv practices, you're like, I think I'm ex I think I'm in parametopod. And you would have, you know, you would have your face and all that, and you would just tell me all the things. And so yeah, it's on my radar for that reason, and also because I have fellow friends that are experiencing similar symptoms, and they're like, I think I'm I think I'm experiencing parametoplass.

SPEAKER_01 3:29

Well, and that's a thing too, like if you think you are, probably are, yeah. I mean, simple as that. You know, it's like, okay, like why would we be like, no, you're not? I mean, which I mean, unfortunately, that's what they're doing. I'm like, well, no, no, you're too young, or no, no, that can't be. And it's like, no, like, I need my body, like something.

SPEAKER_00 3:48

I know, I was gonna say not right. A lot of people I've I'm like, yeah, I think I'm going through that. I'm like, you're too young. Granted, they also think that I'm in my early 30s, right? So yeah. Gray hairs don't really, but you know, gray hairs come at any point. But my point being is that I do get told, you're too young for that. Yeah, which is interesting that that the reaction, but it is.

SPEAKER_01 4:12

Yeah. What are some of the things that you're experiencing?

SPEAKER_00 4:16

Oh gosh, night sweats. Those are um, yeah. I don't I've never really been a night sweater. Um, yeah, and then I'm now yeah, like I look at the the thing, it's like it's only 66, and I'm like, why am I sweating? Um brain fog stuff, uh just forgetting things. Like I can't think of words, and I know words have always been a struggle for me, but in a way that it's like words that I should know, like cookie. Sounds silly like that. Um but those are like the ones that I know could be associated with perimenopause, um, that I feel like I can definitely pinpoint. Other stuff I'm not, I'm still learning, so I don't know too too much about what else could possibly be going on with my body. Um my cramps, my yeah. Um yeah, and I've I've also had this, and I still don't know what it is, and a lot of people don't. That's why they think it might it might be endometriosis. I don't know. Um, but I've had for two years straight this pain that's unidentifiable, that they like no confirmation in my pelvic area on my left side that I thought could be endometriosis a while ago, but then they're like, no, it's probably just really tight. Like, okay, so I started working out, yeah, just real tight in there. And then they gave me that thing that uh to help really like pressure point on the inside of one's um bottle body. How much can I see here?

SPEAKER_01 5:56

Because it's up to you how much you want to say.

SPEAKER_00 6:00

Well, I was gonna say hoo-ha, so that's like the PG version. Up my hoo-ha. Um, I full disclosure, did not. Uh I don't know how to use this in the way that I think is intended, and I don't feel I feel weird.

SPEAKER_02 6:12

You're like, I don't know how to use this thing. I know.

SPEAKER_00 6:16

No, no, and I felt just like weird. So I I didn't use it, but I did do all like the stretches and the exercises that they told me to do, and the pain would not go away, and it got severely worse during um my menstrual cycles.

SPEAKER_01 6:28

Physical therapist?

SPEAKER_00 6:30

I did do that, and that they did the thing with the thing, right? And I was yeah, and I was like, okay.

SPEAKER_01 6:36

It's a very interesting process.

SPEAKER_00 6:41

It is. It is.

SPEAKER_01 6:43

It's like you're just laying there. And for me, it wasn't with the thing, it was like their hands, right? And so, like, like, hi, so what are you doing? You know, like clockwise, you know.

SPEAKER_00 6:55

Yeah, we talked about our days and what kind of music we liked. Yeah, no, a whole yeah, right? Like, what you watching nowadays? And then the vagina model, and that's not right. I just like anything, yeah. It's hard to get my mind off the fact that that was happening. Yeah. Um, but like that, I don't know. I just got I've had a lot more uh weird like trying to problem solve my issues without any real solutions, but you know, now I'm on IUD to figure out what that you see that's fixing it. That happened about two weeks ago. Well, I just I just got it. So um it was about two weeks ago, and that oh god, that was that was uh that was exciting.

SPEAKER_01 7:40

I meant to ask you that before we got on. I'm just gonna ask you now. Was it painful?

SPEAKER_00 7:44

Yes, but okay, so yes, and it was pain that I'm kind of used to, just not in such a concentrated amount, because I would get that bad of cramps ever since I was a kid. Um, so at the I mean, at one of my jobs, um I should disclose this. I don't know, but let's just say uh I was there was a period during I was in the office by myself because it was an enclosed office, and I was just on the ground in a crippled fetal position due to like just waiting for the pain to subside before I could go back on the computer.

SPEAKER_01 8:19

Yeah, I was when I was younger, before I went on birth control, I used to get really had really heavy periods, really bad cramps. Like I remember, like I think in high school, they had me on like 800 mil, like they were like horse pills of ibuprofen because I just like they were so bad. Yeah, it's it is just like oof. Uh, but no, I the very first IUD I had, I passed out.

SPEAKER_00 8:46

Really?

SPEAKER_01 8:46

Yeah, like they had to remove the office and give me like uh orange juice.

SPEAKER_02 8:51

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_01 8:53

Because I passed out. It was so I like it was such a pain. Well, and she was having a problem because apparently my cervix is stubborn.

SPEAKER_00 9:01

So I want it stock open, you know, like it's like ma'am, can you please uh stop closing your cervix?

SPEAKER_01 9:12

Yeah and the other thing, so what I found, so after the so this is I'm on my third one. So number two, number three, um, I actually had a I took a Valium, like prescribed, like my doctor, my primary gave me got like gave me a Valium to take.

SPEAKER_00 9:29

Yeah, so that I was relaxed because yeah, that was part of my problem was that I was then your cervix would be like also was tense, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 9:39

Everything so it must be less painful. It doesn't feel great, uh but it was less painful because I wasn't as like tensed up and stressed out about it. So just a tip for the future.

SPEAKER_00 9:51

For the future, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 9:51

Uh everybody and for and for getting it removed, because when it gets removed, it also doesn't feel great.

SPEAKER_00 9:56

So I'm not gonna lie, I just hope they take my uterus and leave the ovaries when they remove it. I'm at that point. Yeah, just don't take out the IED, take out the IED. Um with the unit because one unit. Yeah, take the unit out. I don't want it, I don't want the base. May I ask? So I what your are you're your menopause? You're done. So but you still have an IED.

SPEAKER_01 10:22

But I still have an IED because my IUD has progesterone, and so progesterone is good. I'm on a uh transdermal patch of estradiol, and so um that's why she's like, keep it in, because it I think I have a couple more years left on it. So you can keep it in until it expires.

SPEAKER_00 10:44

What does that do?

SPEAKER_01 10:46

What does the progesterone do?

SPEAKER_00 10:48

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_01 10:49

Well, it's just a hormone, so it's like a hor I mean, I'm not like a doctor, so I don't I don't know the someone's probably gonna watch it. I you totally butchered this. It's you know, some of the hormones that you lose, you know, that go down uh you know during menopause. And so a lot of people, if they take um some sort of estro I mean, uh we all know about estrogen. So if a lot of pe if someone's on whether it's a patch or a pill, like some sort of estrogen replacement, um they normally also are taking a progesterone as well.

SPEAKER_00 11:20

I see. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 11:21

But I don't need to take that. So like I have a friend who who t has to take progesterone and estrogen. I don't have to take the progesterone because I have my IUD that provides that already.

SPEAKER_00 11:33

I see. Okay, okay, that makes sense.

SPEAKER_01 11:36

Yeah, I would recommend the value. It helps. And I mean, it doesn't really knock you out or anything, it just you know relax and it just takes the edge off.

SPEAKER_00 11:44

Um was it as painful with it? Did you notice the pain?

SPEAKER_01 11:48

I mean, I still remember the pain, like I still felt the pain, but it wasn't like I wasn't tensing up because of it.

SPEAKER_00 11:54

So okay, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 11:56

Um and I remember the second time, I think it was my maybe it was my third one. Anyway, I had it, it was I was getting my I was at Kaiser, and you know, when you're a Kaiser, they were like, Oh, you have all these other things you should be getting while you're here. And someone was like, You're actually due for a mammogram, and I was like, Oh, okay. And so I went over, they're like, Do you want to go now? Because again, Kaiser before or after I was after, and she was like, Do you want to, you know, she's like, Oh, you can just go walk across the street and get it now. They have an opening, and I was like, Well, I'm on volume, why not? Because like I had heard so many, I don't know if you've have you had a mammogram yet?

SPEAKER_00 12:31

No, I was told I tried to get one earlier this year because I'm going to Greece this year uh for anniversary. And I was like, I just want to get all the stuff out of the way before I turn before that, you know, that time. And uh they're like, sorry, you're not 40 yet. I was like, okay. But they did, you know, they felt me up, so and they didn't notice anything.

SPEAKER_01 12:51

Got your money's worth.

SPEAKER_00 12:52

Yeah, got my money's worth.

SPEAKER_01 12:55

So they and here was the thing for me, because I was like, Oh, I'm on volume, yeah, I'll go get my mammogram because I've heard like I've heard nightmare stories about how painful it is. It's not painful, it's a little awkward. You're in a weird position, you're kind of like hugging the machine and they're shoving your, you know, they're shoving the thing between your right in there. But it's not like in my head, I was like, oh, this is gonna, you know, like I had just heard these nightmare things, and it's not that it wasn't that bad.

SPEAKER_00 13:23

I heard it the time it sucks is when you're on your period.

SPEAKER_01 13:26

Yeah, well, um back to my IUG story. I haven't had a period in years, so I don't know, which is why I didn't know I was going through menopause when I was, or like because I didn't have that marker of like, oh, I haven't had a period for 12 months because I just hadn't. How old were you again when you got when you found out that you were already when I found out it was just last year, so 49, but um but who knows when it actually happened?

SPEAKER_00 13:52

Yeah, you don't know, but you know by 49 menopause.

SPEAKER_01 13:55

48 and 49, because even though I didn't have a period period, I was still like maybe spot a little bit, and I like that, and we had moved, you know, and so it's like, oh, I haven't touched that box of tampons since we moved. So it's like clearly I can at least go, okay, well, something happened.

SPEAKER_02 14:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 14:12

I left I left all my estrogen in California.

SPEAKER_00 14:16

As you should. Just and every time you visit, you say you get to visit. Yeah. Hi. Remember remember the days?

SPEAKER_01 14:28

We uh we we'll take long walks on the beach hand in hand.

SPEAKER_00 14:35

I'm just imagining what Escherchen looks like as a form.

SPEAKER_01 14:38

I have the same sort of visual, like it's like some little like plushy sort of thing, and I'm like spinning on the beach with it. This is what happens when we get together.

SPEAKER_00 14:48

Um now we know we have to make a little bit, a little sketch of of you uh going on long walks on the beach with your estrogen and swinging. On the swings. Uh yeah.

SPEAKER_01 15:03

Like the thing we never got to make, which was like the my Midwest lady going to Yeah, I know.

SPEAKER_00 15:08

Folsom Street. Folsom Fair, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 15:11

Oh, there's still time.

SPEAKER_00 15:12

Yeah, there's still time.

SPEAKER_01 15:13

There is. I could come back.

SPEAKER_00 15:15

I know. I will happily write it up and we can do it because I've taken sketch classes. No, I just taken one.

SPEAKER_01 15:22

I don't feel like you're like, I'm a professional now.

SPEAKER_00 15:24

I'm a professional, obviously. Quick learner. Yeah. Uh yeah. But uh I wasn't there. Um I just emailed it in. Okay, I'm done.

SPEAKER_01 15:38

Um, my other message to you as as your elder is uh is that the mammograms don't. I'm glad you're trying to go get one. Sorry they won't let you get one yet. And it's not it's not that bad.

SPEAKER_00 15:52

Okay, yeah. I I personally was never scared. I I knew there was squish it, but um I've had I've gotten hit by soccer balls in my boobs, you know.

SPEAKER_01 16:00

Like I'd that probably hurts more.

SPEAKER_00 16:03

Yeah, yeah, it did.

SPEAKER_01 16:05

I'm like, I think that would hurt more than the mammogram. Like I said, it's more like just you're like you're in like a weird position, and like you know, and then they're in there, they're like there's someone manipul like trying to get it all on the thing, and and you're like I don't have a lot to put on I don't know what they're gonna do, what they're gonna take.

SPEAKER_00 16:28

Uh yeah, I have no idea how they're gonna get in there. Um I feel like I'm basically inverted at this point, but um, I I was noticing too, I uh I saw a picture of we did pictures for like a uh outfit um picture shoot, you know, to see if that worked with the character. And um I don't wear bras any really anymore if I don't have to, except for working out because it'll occasionally hurt every so often if I'm doing too much movement. But generally speaking, don't care about wearing bra because I have I whatever, I don't care. Um, but I have noticed like I just I always imagine that my my boobs are a little bit higher, and I don't have it's not like they're it doesn't feel like they're droopy because there's like not much to droop. It just feels like they moved to the middle of my body, and I just saw like there's like head, like a foot of my just just flat chest, and then little guys that popped right out, and I was like, wow, it's like my it's like they just decided I don't want to be here anymore. I'm just gonna slide down the skin, not be saggy again, because there's nobody notices, yeah. Right. Just gonna pop out of my feet one day. Yeah, I was just I was like, oh yeah, my body's changing.

SPEAKER_01 17:49

I went from like being mostly just perky to finally looking like normal. You finally just kind of like dropped that were like in the cat, like the the thing where there was like it it looked like a like it looked like a boob, and mine just always just sort of yeah, and and now they I feel like they just look normal. So I they they probably I'm assuming they just sagged, but they sagged into a normal into a normal place, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 18:20

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's nice. Yeah, see it it looks like they're still attached to the original spot though, right?

unknown 18:26

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 18:28

My mine don't my mine literally look like they're running away. They look they now look like they're attached at mid-body.

SPEAKER_01 18:35

I feel like they're like at the bottom of your ribs, but that's right.

SPEAKER_00 18:38

Yes, basically gotten down there. No, I do have a I have a long torso, as you may know. Um, but yeah, it just it's an interesting look. It looks like somebody who did claymation and just didn't know where boobs were placed.

SPEAKER_01 18:56

Put these down here, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 18:57

Near the belly button, got it. Are they sagging? No, they're still perky. Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 19:07

So that was a fun discovery. Well, we just in our skin as we age too.

SPEAKER_00 19:13

Yeah, we do. Yeah, that's what I just expected that they would like have a sag.

SPEAKER_01 19:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 19:19

Not doesn't look like they're sagging. Yeah. We want a new destination. We're tired of living right above your lungs. We want to be near your tummy, your belly, your stomach. Like, here you go. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 19:35

Um, I was uh, as you know, I got a new tattoo and I got I got one on my forearm, but I was originally thinking of getting it on the inside of my bicep, but I said to her, these arms aren't gonna look any better. And so I don't want my cat, I have a cat, uh I didn't want it to have jowls someday. And she's like, Yeah, I'd probably put it on your forearm then. So that's okay. And because I'm just like, oh, and then she was telling me a story about like is it you know, if if you lose weight and stuff like that. So she was saying, like somebody had had like a Harry Potter and they lost a bunch of weight. Yeah, Harry Potter also lost some weight.

SPEAKER_02 20:13

Lost weight, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 20:14

So I was just I don't want either my cat to like face to blow up, yeah, or or not gonna get any better. I mean, I I shouldn't say that. I could if I put in the effort, probably, but I'm not going to.

SPEAKER_00 20:32

Right. Because we know ourselves.

SPEAKER_01 20:34

I'm like, you know, this isn't it's as good as it gets.

SPEAKER_00 20:39

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's good. That's good. You know what? That's I'm we knowing ourselves is important. Yeah. Oh, which reminds me about knowing myself. I it kind of reminds me. This is a uh this is clonky, but here we go. I just remembered because my brain is now remembering things. When you asked me, what are things, symptoms, what are experience? Now I remembered. Um, did I tell you about the time that I I reported my car stolen?

unknown 21:10

No.

SPEAKER_00 21:10

Okay. So I don't drive too much as much like because of the car that I drive, it's annoying to have to charge. Right.

SPEAKER_01 21:18

And I like to even make it to my house without charging.

SPEAKER_00 21:22

That's correct. Yeah. So I now we live next to BART, so it's a lot easier to do Bart stuff. So I do BART a lot, uh, a lot more now. And I like public transportation anywho. So I had to go and meet um Hannah for an event. I can't remember what it was, uh, Hannah being my partner, um, in San Francisco. So I took Bart in, I drove my car to BART, took Bart in, and then we drove back. So I didn't have to take Bart because we had her car. And about two days, two and a half days later, um, we I was like, oh, I gotta go drive somewhere. So I started looking for my car. And it's not normally where I park it. And then I'm like starting to panic. And then I like call up Han a little panic. And I'm like, I can't have my car. I have no idea where my car is. And we live right by the highway. And you know, the Bay Area and theft is a thing. But the first thing I was like, well, they stole it. They're not gonna get very far because I didn't have much charge.

SPEAKER_01 22:26

So it's probably a mile from here.

SPEAKER_00 22:29

Yeah. So we drove a little bit further, and I was like, maybe I just parked it in a way, a place that I don't normally do it, and I just forgot, kept looking, couldn't find it. And then we asked our neighbors, I was like, Hey, do you remember by chance seeing my car park? Because he and I share a parking spot and we'll change it every so often. Do you remember us last time seeing it? And he goes, I haven't seen it in a while. I was like, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool. And then he happened to have one of those dash cams where you, you know, you can see the stuff. So they were able to tell us when we last saw the car. And that was about two and a half days ago. I was like, fuck. So I did have it, and I did park it, and now it's not here. So we eventually just called the cops to report it. That was they think it stolen. So the cops came, we did the whole thing, the report and everything. They put it out there. Um and this was pretty late at night by the time that this all got completed. And I finally like calmed down, didn't get to go do what I wanted. I wanted to go get a burger, a vegan burger, for those that are wondering. Um, but I was like, fine, I'm just gonna eat some soup. So as soon as I got sat down with my hot soup, I pull the soup spoon to my mouth, and then I go, oh, the car's at BART. Because the day that we drove back, we just drove straight home. We forgot to go to the BART station where my car was parked. And then I had to, and then we're like, honey, I think I know where the car is. Can we just drive to the BART station to check? And lo and behold, it's there, same spot, no ticket. Shocked because it was a work day.

unknown 24:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 24:12

Oh, did I just reveal myself? Oh well. Um, sorry, called the cops. Uh so I couldn't drive, and he uh the guy that the cop just say, if you do eventually find it, don't drive it right away because of it.

SPEAKER_02 24:25

You still have your own car.

SPEAKER_00 24:27

Yep. And so I was like, great. So I called the cops, and then we went through the whole ordeal of, well, we're gonna transfer you to the Bart Station cops, because technically this is their thing to handle. So I called them up and they're like, hey, I found my car. And they're like, What are you talking about? Are you reporting it's stolen? I'm like, no, they're like, sorry, that you have to call back the original people that have so I did this whole back and forth. So I find eventually got my car back. Um, and Hannah, Hannah couldn't drive me back and forth because uh she took an edible right before the thing.

SPEAKER_01 25:00

Um in California.

SPEAKER_00 25:02

Yeah, we do. Yes, we're California, it's legal here.

SPEAKER_01 25:05

Like I was like, let me just state this.

SPEAKER_00 25:07

It was to go to sleep, her not knowing it was a sleeping age. It's legal there, it's legal there, it's legal there. Here, it's here, it's here. Um but uh yeah, so eventually that was uh one of those moments where my brain, yeah. I normally don't have that much of a you know brain flame.

SPEAKER_01 25:25

Yeah, that's a that's a pretty big one.

SPEAKER_00 25:27

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 25:29

And then the cops are like, oh Jesus.

SPEAKER_00 25:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 25:31

Well here's where my head goes. How many paramenopausal menopausal women call and report cars stolen? Maybe it's a thing.

SPEAKER_00 25:41

Maybe it is a thing. They're but they're probably like she looks 33, so it's kidding, it's good. Uh I feel like you can go get away with a solid 36.

SPEAKER_01 25:53

Um, but yeah, I think that way about me too, but it's clearly I was like, I have 25 years of work experience when I'm only 25.

SPEAKER_00 26:04

Right.

SPEAKER_01 26:07

How is that possible?

SPEAKER_00 26:08

That was possible, I don't know. Um, yeah, so that was a big, big uh thing. And again, I didn't think about like I didn't quite like connect those two.

SPEAKER_01 26:17

Like, oh I mean, I feel like that's a lot of stuff like in the moment you don't realize, right? And then it's only in hindsight. That was my experience. It's like in hindsight, going like, oh, this, this, this, and this was probably you know related to that, but I didn't know you're in a different advantage point than I was because now you can you can be in the moment going, is this? I don't know. It's probably anyway, but at the same time, at least it might give some sort of explanation for something that's happening. Whereas like I didn't I didn't have a me, I didn't have anybody who you know was already going through this or had already gone through it to say, like, oh yeah, maybe it is.

SPEAKER_00 26:55

Yeah, I also I was uh because well, obviously, because during my life and and um the algorithm is also uh adapting to the things I felt on you. And um, I saw something, and I don't know how true this is, but I thought it was interesting that while like this is all happening, our brains are also learning to rewire itself to be able to adapt to the changes of of what our brains are going through.

SPEAKER_01 27:21

So, like even though we're going through this little hiccup eventually, like we're supposed to come out of it just fine and yeah, it's like this time frame where like things just are a little slower and then it then you'll be fine.

SPEAKER_00 27:34

Yeah, right. Because it it's like our it's like because the hormones and all things are relying on stuff to do things. Yeah, this is educational people. Uh and then who died, yeah. Yeah. Uh so, anyways, I I did question too. I was like, is it because uh of my habits to use cannabis legally in California? California. Yeah. I was like wondering if that was what was going on, and again, not associating with my age or anything, but um the symptoms of my absent mind this when I'm so like not under influence or anything like that is still pretty relevant. And I again I never I haven't been doing cannabis for all my life. This is a more recent there's probably no, right?

SPEAKER_01 28:25

There's hardly any research on, you know, just women in general, let alone like combining some of these other things, right? Who knows? Maybe it helps.

SPEAKER_00 28:34

Yeah, you know, I don't know. I mean, definitely helps they've done studies on helping uh some things that I don't want to list because I don't want to be held accountable for misinformation.

SPEAKER_02 28:43

Right. Very responsible of you.

SPEAKER_00 28:47

Thank you. I just started that because I said all the other things previously.

SPEAKER_01 28:51

Like, oh no, yeah. I'm not a doctor, so somebody's gonna watch us and be like, that's not right.

SPEAKER_00 28:59

There's gonna get comments on comments on comments. Yeah, uh I appreciate you being here.

SPEAKER_01 29:08

I appreciate your uh your state of being.

SPEAKER_00 29:13

Thank you. I appreciate your state of being.

SPEAKER_01 29:15

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